How do you sync sound ?

[Alex Wise]

I'm not sure on the process to sync sound(especially dialogue) using a basic super 8 camera, and the sound being recorded from an external source like a dat recorder.

From what i have seen on the net, a lot of the time i c sites talking about recording the sound on the projector or using a sync unit on more of the pro super 8 camers.
Well i don't have a pro camera, and anyway i want to do this on my computer which is fast and has premiere 5 on it (Which i haven't used yet).

What i am thinking is that i will have the film sent of to be converted to digital, and then match it with the sound using premiere.

Have i got the right idea or will it not be possible ?

[Actor]

I use iMovie and I can do it. Surely Premiere can do it.

[Jon P]

A clap board and a minidisc player seem to be the popular choice. Then marry the two up in edit once you get your rushes transfered to DV. I would like to know how easy this is and if there is a sync slip between the two.

[mcarter4121]

Speed adjustments in Premiere aren't fine enough, or I just don't know how to use the proper audio filter yet, so I use Goldwave for the .1% speed adjustment required. http://www.goldwave.com

[Alex Wise]

I will download Goldwave and compare it to Premiere.
Cheers for the help guys and i will let you know how it goes.

[jefury]

I havn't had much experience with sound sync but I hear from some people, if you don't have a sync camera, it could be hard matching the sound with the footage because the camera isn't running at exactly 24fps or 18fps.

But that's what I hear. I'm also working on a similar project where I need to get a lot of dialogue. Seems like the miniDisc player and clapper board would be the way to go! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Best of luck!

Jeffery

[Cranium]

And if your camera has a flash socket, you can record the pulses from that on the second channel of the minidisc, then resolve this using software. Then your audio will be in perfect sync!

[jefury]

Oh cool! I didn't know that!
That's great news for me.

Thanks

Jeffery

[rollemfilm]

use fresh batteries when shooting for sound. the best cameras are the sound cameras since they seem to have a steady transport. although i have used non-sound Canon cameras. shoot at 24fps. if you use a digital recorder, and you transfer your footage via Rank, you will have to slow the audio down by 1/10 of 1 percent. if you transfer via standard film chain, no adjustment of the audio is needed. here are two links that may help:
http://members.aol.com/fmgp
www.tobincinemasystems.com
i have had great luck shooting sound with a non-sync camera. but, it's always a **** shoot. if you have no other choice, shoot with the intent to sync. use a clap board, mark and log all your shots. i change batteries every three rolls for sound. i use those same batteries to shoot MOS later. if you are shooting with a cassette recorder, use good tape, plug the recorder into a wall outlet if you can and/or again, use fresh batteries.

[Konton]

Here's something I wrote on the subject for Super 8mm:
http://www.super8mm.org/sound.html